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.17 HMR Vs. .22 LR

Posted: April 4th, 2009 | Author: zackpow | Filed under: 22 Magnum Rifles | Tags: , , , , , |

This is my demonstration of the power of .17 Hornady Magnum Rimfire as compared to .22 Long Rifle

25 Comments on “.17 HMR Vs. .22 LR”

  1. 1 JackSwift67 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    I have a .17m2 and a .17HMR and a few .22s a ruger 10/22, savage mark II, 2 Henry lever, adn an old remington pump and i think the .17s always outshoot any of the .22s i have

  2. 2 ussoccer114 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    there are tons of smaller rounds that are way more powerful than the 7.62. im guessing you own one

  3. 3 eballaryder05 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    Amen, I was going to type the same thing. Plus the weights are different, it isnt so much the cartridge differen in this case, but more of bullet types and their performances

  4. 4 richizzzle said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    Rofl, nice vid

  5. 5 M1nKylol said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    you really can’t compare 22 LR to 17HMR. .17HMR uses a .22 Magnum case. But yes, for killing small animals, nothing beats 17.

  6. 6 AreThereNoMoreNames said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    The speed kills on the .17HMR. You’re going to lose a little speed with the Marlin recoil operation as compared to the Savage bolt action, so that’s only going to amplify the effect.

  7. 7 flsquirrelhunter said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    17HMR should be compared to 22WMR with nylon-tipped hollowpoints

    22LR should be compared to 17M2

    I hunt grey squirrel with 22 Short, 22LR, 22WRF, 22WMR, and 17M2. The 22 Short and 17M2 are quietest. The 17M2 and 22WMR damage the most meat.

    If you just want to kill a critter, any will do and the WMR and 17HMR probably leave the least parts together. But some of us hunt for food, not sport.

  8. 8 iLUVfatCHlCKS said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    what did coke cola ever do to u? :(

  9. 9 dieseldude03 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    For my personal uses, the .17HMR with the .20gr Hornady XTP is gonna be hard to beat, but I’ll still enjoy carrying my .22 to the woods and the target range.

    I also own a .22 Magnum rifle and even an old Stevens .32 rimfire if anyone would like me to perform the test with these rounds also.

    Sorry for the book and thanks for reading.

  10. 10 dieseldude03 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    The .22LR is hard to beat for a squirrel gun. It’s much quieter than the .17HMR and can be just as accurate at squirrel hunting ranges. Thought a hunter may have to pick his shot to be certain the bullet will strike a tree when it passes through it’s target. And of course it makes a great plinker, mostly due to the fact ammo is dirt cheap compared to the .17HMR. While the .22LR can be used for the bigger critters mentioned above, it’s best to limit shots to closer ranges due to it’s trajectory.

  11. 11 dieseldude03 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    The 20 gr. .17 HMR and the .22LR had the exact same penetration, though the .17 was more destructive. While the .20 grainer may still be too destructive on small game animals with anything but a head-shot, the results should be fantastic on bigger critters. A more vicious wound than the .22LR would make, while still penetrating deep enough to reach the vitals. Plus, if it over-penetrats, the tiny bullet likely won’t go far due to it’s near complete loss of kinetic energy.

  12. 12 dieseldude03 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    The 17gr V-max bullet, would be perfect for small varmints like prairie dogs or for max destruction target shooting but are too explosive and fragile for use on small game animals like squirrels unless ONLY head shots are made. Any hits in the body will result in completely ruined game. They also may prove to be too fragile to reliably penetrate deep enough to quickly kill larger varmints like groundhogs or fur-bearers like coyote or bobcats, especially at longer ranges.

  13. 13 dieseldude03 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    The .17HMR using the Hornady .20gr. XTP bullet penetrated 3.5 inches. The entrance wound measured .300″. Maximum wound channel size measured 1.175″ at a depth of 1.375″ and measured .600″ at the bullet’s recovery point. The recovered bullet sported a “classic” mushroom (like you would expect from a premium personal defense pistol bullet) with expansion stopping just past the half-way point of the bullet’s length. The expanded bullet measured .309″ with a retained weight of 14.1 grains.

  14. 14 dieseldude03 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    The .17HMR CCI V-MAX bullet penetrated just 1.875″ but started to expand immediately, with the entrance hole measuring approx .400″. Maximum wound channel size measured 1.375″ at the end of the bullet’s travel with tiny pieces of copper and lead found the entire distance. The recovered bullet expanded all the way down to it’s base, measured .409″ (copper jacket only. very little to no lead remained) and weighed only 4 grains.

  15. 15 dieseldude03 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    The .22 penetrated a total of 3.5 inches. The entrance hole measured .23″. Maximum wound channel size measured .75″ at a depth of 1.00″ but quickly shrank down to the size of the bullet for the remainder of it’s journey. The recovered bullet weighed 30.1grs. and had flattened out down to the bottom of the “hollow point” with a minimal mushroom measuring .272″.

  16. 16 dieseldude03 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    I compared the .17 HMR to the .22LR just a couple days ago in wet media. The.17HMR was a Savage 93R17 and the .22 was a Marlin 880SQ. I used 40gr. Winchester Power Point high-velosity hollow points in the .22LR and two different loads in the .17HMR: CCI 17gr. V-MAX and Hornady 20gr. XTP’s. All from a distance of 25 yards. The test media was wet phone books. This is what I came up with:

  17. 17 Brenjen1967 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    Yes, but the .22WMR is the undisputed rimfire heavyweight. The .17HMR is just a more accurate round because it has a flatter trajectory.

  18. 18 Brenjen1967 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    I’ve made them before, just use wax as a sabot & try it out lol, it’s freaky.

  19. 19 Brenjen1967 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    .17M2 is based on the 22lr stinger (the stinger is longer than other 22lr rounds) & the 17HMR is based on the 22mag you need only look at the rounds side by side to see the only difference is the 17 is necked down for the bullet diameter & that’s all.

  20. 20 SHUNT311 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    i have told ppl the .17 is more powerfull for years and they said .22 is higher. thanx

  21. 21 almanCCC said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    i still like my 22 cuz the bullets are cheap :)

  22. 22 timmay556 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    was the can you shot at with the 22 even full of water?

  23. 23 BellJH said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    Would a .22 WMR do more damage to the can at this range than the .17 HMR? Or would it be similar?

  24. 24 ian484848 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    I agree with greedkiller it was a unfair comparison for the reasons he listed. The .17 defeats the purpose of the rimfire cartridge it was designed as a cheap plinker, quiet cartridge and a moderate range small game bullet . The .17 hmr is none of they above. You might as well by a small caliber centerfire because it has the same range or better but it will have better velocity and will carry more energy there being able to take bigger game

  25. 25 robotchicken25 said at 5:31 pm on April 4th, 2009:

    i have a 17 hmr and it is so awsome its more powerful and accurate than a 22 but the ammo is way more expensive

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